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#1 Griever

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:55 PM

So I guess it passed earlier. What do you guys think? Feel it's a breach against your rights? Or do you feel it's necessary? Thoughts? Angry or fluffy are welcome. It still needs to make it to the senate and to the president, but it's a possibility it can actually

be a thing.

 

http://rt.com/usa/co...bill-cispa-031/


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#2 Valor

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:08 PM

I'm not a fan, but I'm also not very well versed on what all is in the bill. Pretty sure that it'll be used as a way to fuck people like you and me over, though, since that's always what's going on.


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:34 AM

I'm not a fan, but I'm also not very well versed on what all is in the bill. Pretty sure that it'll be used as a way to fuck people like you and me over, though, since that's always what's going on.

The bill says that if the government looks at you and says "That is one suspicious looking individual", they can call up Google, or Facebook, or anywhere else and say, "Give me all the information you have on Valor". And under CISPA, they have to say, "Okay."

 

That's it. The government wants to know anything about you, where you live, your emails, what kind of porn you like viewing, all they have to do is ask.

 

Short answer, yes. It is a violation of our rights.

 

Obama said awhile ago that he would veto it if it made it to his desk, but I wouldn't hold my breath. He said he'd veto another bill. I can't remember the exact name, but yeah. If he says it, there's a good chance, but it's not a certainty.


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#4 Kingroy

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:16 AM

>.> I kinda don't care though...

 

And excuse my ignorance but umm how is it violating rights if it's just them asking for your search info?


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#5 Reasonable Doubt

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:28 PM

Because supposedly they will censor and block a lot of the internet


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#6 Midnight

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:07 PM

>.> I kinda don't care though...

 

And excuse my ignorance but umm how is it violating rights if it's just them asking for your search info?

Not JUST search information. They can search your emails, your messages, anything you do on the internet, it's open for them.

It's in violation of the 4th Amendment. They don't need a warrant to do any of this.

 

Another thing, they don't ask, they tell. Those companies HAVE to give out your information.

 

And what D said.


Edited by Midnight, 23 April 2013 - 04:07 PM.

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#7 Lexaeus

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 04:19 PM

Okay, King if you don't value your privacy then that's great.

 

But yeah I actually agree with Obama on this one. If there's one thing I don't understand about conservatives in congress its all these bills on regulating things they don't understand. CISPA is not fit for use. I understand wanting to stop hackers from leeching of the hard work of others but this needs to be handled properly without damaging anyone's rights. Not to mention this could easily be abused.


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#8 Kingroy

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:49 PM

*Shrugs* Companies keep your search info. They use them. Why not the government? Not saying it's right or wrong but I don't see too much fuss on just the search information like:

 

John Doe searched for "Pokemon Dragon-Types Are Awesome" on April 31st, 2009 8:24 PM EST/20:00(-4). <----If it's just that then yeah. I don't really see a big problem with it :/. I'm pretty sure Adchoices or whatever does this because I'm getting advertisements from the places I visit even if only once.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:40 PM

You gave the company permission when you agreed to terms and services. They also only use your data for certain things. They don't break privacy. They don't break the terms and services but only use the given information for what they need it for. The never look up someone's account and view all the info associated with it. But now someone can and you never even agreed to a terms and services with the government. It's a complete violate of constitutional rights. It's unjust and not needed.


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#10 Kingroy

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 09:23 AM

>.> If they put out a Search Warrant on you they don't have to make you sign anything...


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Posted 29 April 2013 - 09:36 AM

They also need probable cause and have to go through the right channels. They could force sites to give all of their information over just for shits and giggles. It's not good.


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